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the nra was saying if we don't have this bill then gun companies will go bankrupt but that's not true. we need to go forward and correct this and hagel could take a really important step in doing that by going forward and saying the pentagon is reversing its position on this. >> sam kleiner from slate. people can read the article. it's fascinating. thank you so much. something we didn't think about what's going on now on capitol hill, the hearing that is ongoing for chuck hagel. that is going to wrap up this how. i'm chris jansing. thomas roberts is up next. good morning, thomas. >> hi, chris. good morning to you. good morning, everybody. we will continue following what's taking place in washington, d.c., right now. on the agenda much more of chuck hagel facing critics, republican and democrat and what are the odds of him getting confirmed? we have an all-star lineup for you, host of "the ed show" will join me, the co-host of "the cycle" will be here and one of hagel's staunchest supporters, john kerry. police taking out the underground bunker where a 6-year-old boy is being held host
the nra was saying if we don't have this bill then gun companies will go bankrupt but that's not true. we need to go forward and correct this and hagel could take a really important step in doing that by going forward and saying the pentagon is reversing its position on this. >> sam kleiner from slate. people can read the article. it's fascinating. thank you so much. something we didn't think about what's going on now on capitol hill, the hearing that is ongoing for chuck hagel. that is...
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she is nra all the way. and then debbie halvorson met this public pressure. >> in the race to replace jesse jackson, watch out for debbie halvorson. when she was in congress before, halvorson got an "a" from the nra. the nra, against comprehensive background checks, against banning deadly assault weapons, against banning high hawaii capacity ammunition clips. halvorson even sponsored a bill that would allow some criminals to carry loaded guns across state lines. debbie halvorson. when it comes to promoting gun violence, she gets an f. >> that ad, that pressure ad comes from new york city mayor michael bloomberg's pro-gun reform superpac. it's part of his campaign to build support in congress for meaningful national gun reform. and you know what? it appears to be working. once that ad started running in her district, debbie halvorson, who had said she would not be moved on this issue, debbie halvorson moved on this issue. ms. halvorson telling buzzfeed, quote, my win will not be a victory for the nra. how can
she is nra all the way. and then debbie halvorson met this public pressure. >> in the race to replace jesse jackson, watch out for debbie halvorson. when she was in congress before, halvorson got an "a" from the nra. the nra, against comprehensive background checks, against banning deadly assault weapons, against banning high hawaii capacity ammunition clips. halvorson even sponsored a bill that would allow some criminals to carry loaded guns across state lines. debbie...
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telling you between this battle between now and when we get this passed you are going to hear from the nra, and there are an awful lot of them saying that's not going to do anything. i'm saying to you at the we can save lives. >> will it be hard? for sure. we owe it to our constituents and our country to try. new york city senator, you have a bill on an anti-gun trafficking measure. tell me about whether or not you think that you can push ahead with it, where the support is, what can you tell us about it today? >> well, i have been working on this anti-trafficking measure for a while because we have such a challenge in new york. 58% of the weapons used in crimes come from out of state, and 90% are illegal. senator mark kirk and i sat down yesterday talked about our bill, and we decided we're going to introduce this bipartisan bill next week, and i think it's something that can really make a difference because we have to stop the flow of illegal guns going straight to the hands of the criminals. that will be awe great compliment to what senator fine sign and senator schumer and others are w
telling you between this battle between now and when we get this passed you are going to hear from the nra, and there are an awful lot of them saying that's not going to do anything. i'm saying to you at the we can save lives. >> will it be hard? for sure. we owe it to our constituents and our country to try. new york city senator, you have a bill on an anti-gun trafficking measure. tell me about whether or not you think that you can push ahead with it, where the support is, what can you...
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the nra leadership represents the gun industry. the capitol management and remington smith and wesson and bushmast bushmaster. that's where the money comes from. the nra members pay $35 to be a member and it costs $100 for the membership. that's a loss leader. it's just so the nra leadership can say we have numbers, but it's the gun industry who is unregulate and gives tens of millions to the nra and buying off congress. it's time for congress to find their backbone. >> it is a point i'm happy you made regarding gun manufacturers and the amount of money they put into the everyday moms and dads that they like to refer to. thank you very much for your time. it's a pleasure. a 15-year-old high school band majorette performed at somebody president obama's festivities has become a latest shooting victim. she was shot in the back tuesday in a park. authorities say she was one of about a dozen teens standing under a canopy during heavy rain when a man ran towards the fence and opened fire. a teen boy was also shot in the lug. he belonged
the nra leadership represents the gun industry. the capitol management and remington smith and wesson and bushmast bushmaster. that's where the money comes from. the nra members pay $35 to be a member and it costs $100 for the membership. that's a loss leader. it's just so the nra leadership can say we have numbers, but it's the gun industry who is unregulate and gives tens of millions to the nra and buying off congress. it's time for congress to find their backbone. >> it is a point i'm...
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the rank and file members of the nra and him and his gun lobby buddies. that was fully on display this afternoon during the hearing. >> julian, what do you make of that? this notion has been discussed at length. the constituency that we talked about in the open that the nra claims to represent and what stephen is talking about. which is other people who own guns but have a different view of the road ahead. >> well, i think it's very clear through a number of different things we've learned since the newtown tragedy that wayne lapierre represents the interests of gun manufacturers, not of gun owners. i think it's clear there's a lot of daylight between the two. one of the things that became clear today in the hearing, i think, was that lapierre's credibility is quickly evapor e evaporating. even amongst republicans who are squeamish about the lunatic things this guy has said from time to time. not just going after the president's children. not just the idea we ought to be marketing assaults to 10-year-old kids. when chairman leahy today exposed the fact lap
the rank and file members of the nra and him and his gun lobby buddies. that was fully on display this afternoon during the hearing. >> julian, what do you make of that? this notion has been discussed at length. the constituency that we talked about in the open that the nra claims to represent and what stephen is talking about. which is other people who own guns but have a different view of the road ahead. >> well, i think it's very clear through a number of different things we've...
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the nra leadership won't tell you that. they don't reflect the views of even their own members. >> julian, a study after the aurora shooting found much support for specific gun control measures. nearly all support background checks. a majority back a ban on semiautomatics and high capacity magazines. and yet the gun lobby screams that this is the beginning of some kind of governmental reign of terror when the people are expressing their views, are they not? >> right. and i think there's two points there. again, there is enormous public support for these measures. the question is whether these populous and progressive organizations and the infrastructure that they have at their disposals can begin to get the legislatures to follow up on public will here. secondly, the nra argument as stephen and michael were eluding to, there have been dozens perhaps hundreds of challenges to gun laws that are on the books across the country. and nearly every single one of them have failed. there is virtually no case law on the federal books
the nra leadership won't tell you that. they don't reflect the views of even their own members. >> julian, a study after the aurora shooting found much support for specific gun control measures. nearly all support background checks. a majority back a ban on semiautomatics and high capacity magazines. and yet the gun lobby screams that this is the beginning of some kind of governmental reign of terror when the people are expressing their views, are they not? >> right. and i think...
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because if he does turn his back on the nra. and not just about the nra. i would say the nra has done a very good job of delegitimatizing itself with these ads. but that doesn't mean there's not a huge power of gun owners in a loot of these states, especially in red states and harry reid's got to worry about that as he comes into the next election. >> all right, gang, i want to say that we need to welcome michael steele aboard. we have wedged him into this conversation. there he is. mr. steele, it's good to have you onboard. >> good to be with you. >> we're going to shift topics because a lot of talk has been made about this gop retreat. let me get everybody up to speed on thisment republican lawmakers going to be meeting in williamsburg coming up for three days the main agenda there is looking at how to broaden the tent. how to bring in more minority voters, how to bring in more women on this. michael, they're really getting beat across the nose on this one because they are apparently doing this in a place where it is named for a former slave owner. and s
because if he does turn his back on the nra. and not just about the nra. i would say the nra has done a very good job of delegitimatizing itself with these ads. but that doesn't mean there's not a huge power of gun owners in a loot of these states, especially in red states and harry reid's got to worry about that as he comes into the next election. >> all right, gang, i want to say that we need to welcome michael steele aboard. we have wedged him into this conversation. there he is. mr....
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the nra is opposed to this. the nra is wildly opposed to this. in tucson top, anniversary of the massacre there, the nra has come outraging against the tucson gun buyback program. they're trying to stop it. an nra board member is threatening that the nra will sue to stop tucson from destroying the guns that they handed over. the guns, regardless what their owners wanted, done with them, those guns must be sold to the highest bidder and put back into circulation. the nra says the state must not destroy the weapons that people handed over specifically so the weapons could be destroyed. instead, the nra says the state has to sell them, keep them in circulation, and thereby become a gun dealer itself. when your response to the political cliche of low-hanging fruit is something so cartoonishly insensitive, so cartoonishly villainous, you then bring upon us a second political cliche. you have jumped the shark. blocking voluntary efforts by people to get rid of their own guns because they want to voluntarily? that is an exercise in shark jumping. this i
the nra is opposed to this. the nra is wildly opposed to this. in tucson top, anniversary of the massacre there, the nra has come outraging against the tucson gun buyback program. they're trying to stop it. an nra board member is threatening that the nra will sue to stop tucson from destroying the guns that they handed over. the guns, regardless what their owners wanted, done with them, those guns must be sold to the highest bidder and put back into circulation. the nra says the state must not...
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and i think the nra was concerned that a law was going to be passed that theo y -- opposed. so they made a law in favor of background checks. i think there was a back lash that said you never should make a tactical decision, you should stand for principles, and i think it explains his apparent flip-flopping between '99 and today. and the other thing to remember is that wayne lapierre is not the leader, per se, of the national rifle association. he leads at the behest of the board. and i think right now there is a great deal of turmoil, for reasons that krystal discussed, because of the pressure that we've seen for gun control in this country. >> let's listen to a point that dick durbin made. >> we need the fire power and the ability to protect -- ourselves from our government, from the police if they knock on our doors and we need to fight back, do you agree with that point of view? >> if you look at why the founding fathers put it there, they lived under the tyranny, and didn't want to live under tyranny. >> chief johnson, you have heard it. the belief that the nra as a sec
and i think the nra was concerned that a law was going to be passed that theo y -- opposed. so they made a law in favor of background checks. i think there was a back lash that said you never should make a tactical decision, you should stand for principles, and i think it explains his apparent flip-flopping between '99 and today. and the other thing to remember is that wayne lapierre is not the leader, per se, of the national rifle association. he leads at the behest of the board. and i think...
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and the nra, so for him it's a tricky situation. i think it's going to be -- you've asked debbie wasserman-shultz, does her voice resonate. of course it does emotional. i was there when she got a standing ovation and hugged the president, but it's going to be a tough road to ho. i think you'll see folks say, let's have a smaller piece of legislation that might be more acceptable to conservatives who don't want to go too far. the universal background checks is the most likely and the bigger issues enjoy almost 90% in public polling but the bigger issue will be harder to achieve. >> the nra is talking about what they feel is the obvious choice in all of this, it's not more gun regulation, it's enforcing laws we have on the books and evaluating mental health and the fact they think more schools to avoid school shootings need more armed security. the nra statistics since the newtown shooting, 4.5 million people current membership, they report a 400,000 surge in membership, 8,000 a day week after the shooting. ben, when you look at those
and the nra, so for him it's a tricky situation. i think it's going to be -- you've asked debbie wasserman-shultz, does her voice resonate. of course it does emotional. i was there when she got a standing ovation and hugged the president, but it's going to be a tough road to ho. i think you'll see folks say, let's have a smaller piece of legislation that might be more acceptable to conservatives who don't want to go too far. the universal background checks is the most likely and the bigger...
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we've heard enough from the nra. it's time they follow some simple advice from her own statement today. be bold. be courageous. we've heard enough and we've seen enough. the time is now. joining me now is lorie hauss, whose daughter, emily, survived being shot in the virginia tech massacre in 2007 and clarence page. >> lorie, let me start with you. you were at the hearing today. don't our elected leaders need to show the courage gabby showed today? >> absolutely, reverend sharpton. thanks for having me on the show. >> thank you for coming. >> frankly, we need leadership from all of our rep zen tifrs. and, you know, we demand courage from them. but, frankly, you know, it shouldn't take much courage to stand up to the nra. courage is, you know, facing down the barrel of a gun. and, you know, my daughter did that. and there were 16 other injured students at virginia tech who did that. and who stand with us in this area. you know, in my opinion, the nra should not even be at the table. i don't see reports from them. i do
we've heard enough from the nra. it's time they follow some simple advice from her own statement today. be bold. be courageous. we've heard enough and we've seen enough. the time is now. joining me now is lorie hauss, whose daughter, emily, survived being shot in the virginia tech massacre in 2007 and clarence page. >> lorie, let me start with you. you were at the hearing today. don't our elected leaders need to show the courage gabby showed today? >> absolutely, reverend sharpton....
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the nra doesn't care about that because, of course, all they care about is selling more product. they represent the product sellers which is why they oppose anything that would interrupt sales. >> right. maria, t teresa, mr. lapierre responded to the subject of background checks. >> standing in line and filling out a bunch of bureaucratic paperwork just so a grandfather can give a grandson a christmas gift. >> so, maria teresa, we all accept a grandfather has a right to give his grandson certain types of guns as a gift if he wishes, but what about the same right the child has to going to school without being hit by 11 bulletses from a military-style assault weapon. i guess that's not a absolute right in the same way, is it? >> i think he's being disingenuous with his membership. 74% of members believe in criminal background checks. recognizing that guns should not be falling into the hands of criminals and people who are mentally ill. >> mr. lapierre says the only intention behind any legislation is to either tax the weapon or take it. that's what he says. >> well, that's what he
the nra doesn't care about that because, of course, all they care about is selling more product. they represent the product sellers which is why they oppose anything that would interrupt sales. >> right. maria, t teresa, mr. lapierre responded to the subject of background checks. >> standing in line and filling out a bunch of bureaucratic paperwork just so a grandfather can give a grandson a christmas gift. >> so, maria teresa, we all accept a grandfather has a right to give...
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this meeting now with the nra. what do reknow other than the big headline which is the vice president says some kind of recommendations will be presented to the president tuesday. >> reporter: well, that is the big headline coming out today. and of course, vice president made headlines yesterday by saying that president obama is prepared to take executive action to try to prevent the types of tragedies like the one that just occurred in newtown, connecticut. not giving a lot of details of what that executive direction might look like. vice president biden talking about some of the ideas that have been bantied back and forth in these meetings. here's what he had to say today. take a listen. >> there's an emerging set of recommendations, not coming from me, but coming from the groups we have met with. and i'm going to focus on the ones that relate primarily to gun ownership, the type of weapons can be owned. and one is there is a surprising, so far, a surprising recurrence of suggestions that we have universal backgr
this meeting now with the nra. what do reknow other than the big headline which is the vice president says some kind of recommendations will be presented to the president tuesday. >> reporter: well, that is the big headline coming out today. and of course, vice president made headlines yesterday by saying that president obama is prepared to take executive action to try to prevent the types of tragedies like the one that just occurred in newtown, connecticut. not giving a lot of details of...
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the nra's wayne lapiera pfepier we're out of time. we're going to keep this conversation up for months. you have had the experience of knowing how important it is. gabby giffords, husband mark kelly. >> and that's the difference other victims are now speaking up, and to see gaggy yesterday and her husband by her side talking about this, these were strong nra supporters and yet they see what can be done. >> i think -- >> 20 dead first graders -- >> go ahead, ron. jifs going to say in closing, 20 dead first graders has a way of concentrating the mind. >> right. >> it's a serious conversation. it's an american conversation. thank you, congresswoman carolyn mccarthy of new york and ron reagan. >>> we have one more note about the epidemic of gun violence in this country. yesterday we told you about 15-year-oldh adia pendleton of chicago who was fate ideally shot in what may have been a gang turf war. after having performed in washington with her high school band for the inaugural music festival, it all happened since then, we learned in 20
the nra's wayne lapiera pfepier we're out of time. we're going to keep this conversation up for months. you have had the experience of knowing how important it is. gabby giffords, husband mark kelly. >> and that's the difference other victims are now speaking up, and to see gaggy yesterday and her husband by her side talking about this, these were strong nra supporters and yet they see what can be done. >> i think -- >> 20 dead first graders -- >> go ahead, ron. jifs...
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you know, when the nra -- >> do you think that was written before the meeting? >> i think you can find that statement from the files from years past. >> yes. >> when they say you're taking our gun it's away from us, get your cold dead fingers off them, it's not just true about guns, restrictions on magazines, the type of bullets. they have opposed and fought every sensible measure. the only way this succeeds is over the body of the nra. >> all the solutions they propose happen to increase gun sales. all of their solutions are about finding ways to get more guns into the hands of-mile-an-hour people and this new little industry that's popping up which is training people to be a first responder in the classroom or a nurse first responder. all of that is an industry and the nra benefits. >> if you're a nurse, you can shoot and then you can treat. >> indeed. you have two hands. >> of course. david corn, joy r50ed, thank you both so much. >>> coming up, will the man with the illegible signature get tough on wall street? stay with us. >> jack assures me he is going to
you know, when the nra -- >> do you think that was written before the meeting? >> i think you can find that statement from the files from years past. >> yes. >> when they say you're taking our gun it's away from us, get your cold dead fingers off them, it's not just true about guns, restrictions on magazines, the type of bullets. they have opposed and fought every sensible measure. the only way this succeeds is over the body of the nra. >> all the solutions they...
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when you have the nra as the adversary of law enforcement chiefs, that's a position you want the nra in. >> the real prize in debates like this often people who use guns for a living. we convey expertise from them. we believe they are willing to step towards someone who has a gun, so while what the sheriffs of utah said is important, i don't think as katrina points out, it is a general consensus in the law enforcement community that we need to stand down and do nothing. i think again and again trying to get the people most hopped up about it and think that one step is going to lead to another step is going to lead to rhetoric, like which is not really very temperate. it makes me feel like -- do you mean we shornt even discuss this, wait until the bodies pile a little bit higher? >> i don't know at what point. >> human beings have been stacked like hardwood, and theaters and schools have been turned into kill zones. we are having a moment nationally, locally, everywhere. if this isn't a good time and a right time to talk about both the value and the limits of the second amendment, i d
when you have the nra as the adversary of law enforcement chiefs, that's a position you want the nra in. >> the real prize in debates like this often people who use guns for a living. we convey expertise from them. we believe they are willing to step towards someone who has a gun, so while what the sheriffs of utah said is important, i don't think as katrina points out, it is a general consensus in the law enforcement community that we need to stand down and do nothing. i think again and...
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is the nra's influence waning? >> well, i'm not sure. i think that certainly they still have popularity. i think people still believe in what they do, but i've got to tell you, i've got to join with governor christie. i make ads for a living. i've been doing it for 20 years and i thought very hard, would i have made that ad? no. it was not done in good taste. i don't think the nra is always helping their cause when they do something like that. with that said, i think that their motivations are actually very good. and i think they have the support of a broad part of america. >> welm, let's talk a little bit about what the democrats are going to do now. because it's clear, jamal, that the president has laid out what he wants to do. the "new york times" reports, though, that democrats are divided over exactly how to move forward. some are pushing for narrowly written bills and what they call a meticulous legislative process. others are looking for kind of guerrilla warfare. they're worried if they go too slowly, that allows enough time for
is the nra's influence waning? >> well, i'm not sure. i think that certainly they still have popularity. i think people still believe in what they do, but i've got to tell you, i've got to join with governor christie. i make ads for a living. i've been doing it for 20 years and i thought very hard, would i have made that ad? no. it was not done in good taste. i don't think the nra is always helping their cause when they do something like that. with that said, i think that their...
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this shows just i think how extreme and outrageous the nra and i assume the hecklers were nra moles, how they've become. you consider that in the context of the other absurd statements they have made about martin luther king and the civil rights movement going after the president's children. contrast that with what the president is doing which you mentioned in the setup piece, which is meeting with law enforcement, and if you take a look back at what happened in 1994, the principal strategy of those who wanted to pass the assault weapons ban was to get with law enforcement. if you were for common sense gun regulations you were for getting tough on crime. if you were against them, you were weak on crime. that got a number of votes from the republican party. the president clearly occupying the political center with law enforcement, parents, teachers, community leaders. the nra and some elements of the republican party associating themselves with people that would desecrate the memory of the victims in newtown, people that would then try to, as "the new york times" exposed yesterday, ma
this shows just i think how extreme and outrageous the nra and i assume the hecklers were nra moles, how they've become. you consider that in the context of the other absurd statements they have made about martin luther king and the civil rights movement going after the president's children. contrast that with what the president is doing which you mentioned in the setup piece, which is meeting with law enforcement, and if you take a look back at what happened in 1994, the principal strategy of...
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to try a wedge between the nra leadership and the membership. what we have seen is very divergent views on the issues. >> let me read what they talk about with the gun challenge in this going at an incremental pace. the risk of the approach is that it can't pass congress. it's a bit of a motor cal box for the white house. they like to do something and there is a chance, but what is possible and what gun control advocates want are not in the same ballpark. do you agree with that? >> i think lynn sweet hit it on the head when she said they want to avoid biting off more than they can chew. the problem is how do you appeal to chris christie's viewpoint that speaks for many where in order to deal with him, you are going to have to give up thing he is looking for. to get a buy in on an assault weapons ban, you have to convince him of a mental health component that speaks to his concerns. if the several issues are in play, does it run lynn sweet the risk of being too comprehensive for passage? that's the question. >> tamron? >> i see that is the balanc
to try a wedge between the nra leadership and the membership. what we have seen is very divergent views on the issues. >> let me read what they talk about with the gun challenge in this going at an incremental pace. the risk of the approach is that it can't pass congress. it's a bit of a motor cal box for the white house. they like to do something and there is a chance, but what is possible and what gun control advocates want are not in the same ballpark. do you agree with that? >>...
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the nra barely could win elections around this country. they just aren't the force that they once were. >> senator chris murphy, senator richard blumenthal, the senate delegation from the state of connecticut. the whole country is looking to connecticut for leadership, and i think also for moral resonance on this issue. and everybody's counting on you. seeing you guys here together tonight is a real treat for us to have you both here. thank you. >> thank you. >> thanks. >> i appreciate it. all right. after years of gridlock congress finally had a chance to fix an enormous problem today. had a chance. fix the filibuster day was today. you want to know what happened? stick around. ♪ [ male announcer ] how could switchgrass in argentina, change engineering in dubai, aluminum production in south africa, and the aerospace industry in the u.s.? at t. rowe price, we understand the connections of a complex, global economy. it's just one reason over 75% of our mutual funds beat their 10-year lipper average. t. rowe price. invest with confidence.
the nra barely could win elections around this country. they just aren't the force that they once were. >> senator chris murphy, senator richard blumenthal, the senate delegation from the state of connecticut. the whole country is looking to connecticut for leadership, and i think also for moral resonance on this issue. and everybody's counting on you. seeing you guys here together tonight is a real treat for us to have you both here. thank you. >> thank you. >> thanks....
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. >> and we see joe mansion from the nra, saying things like it is nonsense. back ground checks, that seems to be the spot where there is the most likely opportunity. >> lawmakers say look, if the senate can get through a bill that is something that can work. the nra is in a marketplace. part of the reason they satisfy such an extreme position. there are other groups competing for the same money. >> then gun owners of america
. >> and we see joe mansion from the nra, saying things like it is nonsense. back ground checks, that seems to be the spot where there is the most likely opportunity. >> lawmakers say look, if the senate can get through a bill that is something that can work. the nra is in a marketplace. part of the reason they satisfy such an extreme position. there are other groups competing for the same money. >> then gun owners of america
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the nra barely could win elections around this country. they just aren't the force that they once were. >> senator chris murphy, senator richard blumenthal, the senate delegation from the state of connecticut. the whole country is looking to connecticut for leadership, and i think also for moral resonance on this issue. and everybody's counting on you. seeing you guys here together tonight is a real treat for us to have you both here. thank you. >> thank you. >> thanks. >> i appreciate it. all right. after years of gridlock congress finally had a chance to fix an enormous problem today. had a chance. fix the filibuster day was today. you want to know what happened? stick around. this year. in that time there've been some good days. and some difficult ones. but, through it all, we've persevered, supporting some of the biggest ideas in modern history. so why should our anniversary matter to you? because for 200 years, we've been helping ideas move from ambition to achievement. and the next great idea could be yours. ♪ email marketing from
the nra barely could win elections around this country. they just aren't the force that they once were. >> senator chris murphy, senator richard blumenthal, the senate delegation from the state of connecticut. the whole country is looking to connecticut for leadership, and i think also for moral resonance on this issue. and everybody's counting on you. seeing you guys here together tonight is a real treat for us to have you both here. thank you. >> thank you. >> thanks....
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i'll tell you why the nra leaders walked away disappointed. plus, the pentagon tightens its belts ahead of possible cuts. >>> first, our top story at 5:30 a.m. here at 30 rock in new york city. amid a national debate about guns and violence, a california teacher and a campus supervisor are being credited for heroic actions yesterday during yet another school shooting. it happened in taft, california, around the same time vice president joe biden was holding meetings in washington about possible gun regulation. police say a 16-year-old gunman who felt he was being bullied specifically targeted two students using 12-gauge shotguns. one of them was shot and remains in critical but stable condition. the second student was not hit. police say the teacher in the classroom who was grazed by a shotgun pellet and a campus supervisor managed to engage the gunman in conversation and convince him to drop his weapon. police say the shotgun belonged to the suspect's brother. taft high school where the shooting took place typically has an armed guard on camp
i'll tell you why the nra leaders walked away disappointed. plus, the pentagon tightens its belts ahead of possible cuts. >>> first, our top story at 5:30 a.m. here at 30 rock in new york city. amid a national debate about guns and violence, a california teacher and a campus supervisor are being credited for heroic actions yesterday during yet another school shooting. it happened in taft, california, around the same time vice president joe biden was holding meetings in washington about...
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you've been talking to members of the nra? >> his strategy is to make sure that he is being inclusive. this is going to move very quickly. the vice president saying earlier today that is he going to give his recommendations to president obama by tuesday so, he wants to be able to argue that he has listened to everyone, and they're really doing that. three meetings at the white house today, including one with the nra and five other shooting support groups. earlier today the vice president met with ducks unlimited and some other sort of water fowl outdoor sports groups, and later today the attorney general is meeting with retailers, including cabella's, wal-mart, and some others. they're all trying to get their ideas. we're told that in this most sensitive meeting, this one at 1:45 that includes the national rifle association, vice president biden is really going to push them to participate to say we need to try and find some area for common ground, for compromise. we're not going to et let you just come in here and give us your
you've been talking to members of the nra? >> his strategy is to make sure that he is being inclusive. this is going to move very quickly. the vice president saying earlier today that is he going to give his recommendations to president obama by tuesday so, he wants to be able to argue that he has listened to everyone, and they're really doing that. three meetings at the white house today, including one with the nra and five other shooting support groups. earlier today the vice president...
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the nra association ceo wayne lapierre, is sending the director, the lobbyist for nra's wing to represent the lobbying group in a meeting with the vice president. the president also in attendance, and there will be representatives from walmart, which first declined to attend the meeting due to what they absurdly called a "scheduling conflict." they released a letter, saying knowing our leaders couldn't be there, we shared our perspective. we under estimated the expectation to attend the meeting on thursday in person, so we are sending an appropriate representative to participate. we take this issue very seriously and are committed to staying engaged in this discussion, as the administration and congress work toward a consensus on the right path forward. joining me now is the democratic senator from connecticut, richard blumenthal, who will soon take action on a bill. tell us first of all about the bill you intend to introduce. >> the bill i intend to introduce really has to be seen as part of a comprehensive set of measures that i'm going to be supporting and introducing over the next wee
the nra association ceo wayne lapierre, is sending the director, the lobbyist for nra's wing to represent the lobbying group in a meeting with the vice president. the president also in attendance, and there will be representatives from walmart, which first declined to attend the meeting due to what they absurdly called a "scheduling conflict." they released a letter, saying knowing our leaders couldn't be there, we shared our perspective. we under estimated the expectation to attend...
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the baltimore city chief, james johnson, is going to testify as well as the nra, which has resisted gun control measures that have been talked about. so as this conversation moves forward, how do we continue to have a thoughtful and logical national debate on gun control and apply these solutions on curbing gun violence in major cities and smaller cities and rural ones, but as you say, with everyone not being on the same page, this really does demonstrate that this is not a one-sized fits all answer to this. >> i think, personally, what we have to do is stop calling it gun control. we're trying to control violence. and that has many different facets to it. there's mental health issues, there's databases we need access to, there's record checks that need to be done. there's reporting stolen weapons, doctors being involved, and sharing information between schools, police, mental health professionals. so we need to stop calling it a gun control debate. that's what my personal opinion is, because like i said, when people hear that, they're on one side or the other. and we shouldn't be. we s
the baltimore city chief, james johnson, is going to testify as well as the nra, which has resisted gun control measures that have been talked about. so as this conversation moves forward, how do we continue to have a thoughtful and logical national debate on gun control and apply these solutions on curbing gun violence in major cities and smaller cities and rural ones, but as you say, with everyone not being on the same page, this really does demonstrate that this is not a one-sized fits all...
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show moderation you get your nra badge ripped off you. agree to any rule on gun safety and you're marked as a traitor for life. today some of the top people in the republican party, the people to watch, marco rubio, rand paul, ted cruz are right out there front in opposing president obama on gun safety. so what happened? why is the gop, the party of guns over people? our guests are congresswoman carolyn mccarthy, a democrat of new york, and cynthia tucker, a pulitzer prize winning columnist. thank you both for joining us. you have been in this fight for so long, congresswoman mccarthy. i have to ask you, is there something out there in the water that's changed or are we confronting the old power of the nra? >> well, certainly we are confronting them. we'll always be able to confront them, but this time is different, and i think that the american people are realizing on how radical they actually are. you know, when you see the polls in most people in america support on what we're trying to do, even nra members, so that this time is differe
show moderation you get your nra badge ripped off you. agree to any rule on gun safety and you're marked as a traitor for life. today some of the top people in the republican party, the people to watch, marco rubio, rand paul, ted cruz are right out there front in opposing president obama on gun safety. so what happened? why is the gop, the party of guns over people? our guests are congresswoman carolyn mccarthy, a democrat of new york, and cynthia tucker, a pulitzer prize winning columnist....
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. >> giffords husband mark kelly says expanding background checks should be a top priority but the nra's chief executive yesterday refused to give any ground. >> we know from what happened in tucson that if there was an effective background check which includes having the mental health data and the person's drug use in the case of the tucson shooter into the system and if, in fact, there was no gun show loophole, i would contend he would have had a very difficult time getting a gun. if background checks are good enough for somebody who is a federal firearms licensed dealer like walmart, for instance where i just purchased a gun a couple months ago, a hunting rifle and i had to good through a background check, why isn't that good for other sales? >> my problem with background checks is you'll never get criminals to go through universal background checks. i mean, all the law abiding people. you'll create an enormous federal bureaucracy. >> we're not going to prosecute the bad guys if they do catch one. and none of it makes any sense in the real world. >> that's the point. the criminals won
. >> giffords husband mark kelly says expanding background checks should be a top priority but the nra's chief executive yesterday refused to give any ground. >> we know from what happened in tucson that if there was an effective background check which includes having the mental health data and the person's drug use in the case of the tucson shooter into the system and if, in fact, there was no gun show loophole, i would contend he would have had a very difficult time getting a gun....
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i think the nra is still a very powerful force. and we need to work with them to find a way to get to yes. and that's really our challenge. i totally support the assault weapon ban. i think the most critical thing we can do, however, is to make sure that we have a universal background check, and that we ban these high-capacity magazines. >> congresswoman, explain why this is so personal to you and now in your professional capacity to see something done. >> it's personal to me on two levels. one, i carry the assault weapon ban in california many years ago, back in 1989, and feel very strongly about it. and before that, i was shot in jonestown, gianna, five times, left for dead on an air strip for 22 hours, so i know the kind of brutality that assault weapons can do to human beings. and we just don't need the slaughter of people in this country because of a right to own firearms, which there is clearly a right to own firearms, but not a right necessarily to own assault weapons. >> congresswoman, we also brought you onboard today so w
i think the nra is still a very powerful force. and we need to work with them to find a way to get to yes. and that's really our challenge. i totally support the assault weapon ban. i think the most critical thing we can do, however, is to make sure that we have a universal background check, and that we ban these high-capacity magazines. >> congresswoman, explain why this is so personal to you and now in your professional capacity to see something done. >> it's personal to me on two...
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maybe not from the nra's leadership, but from congress, from the nra membership. you know, we're not going to agree on everything. you know, gabby and i are both very strong supporters of the second amendment. i don't think you'll find somebody who is a stronger supporter of the second amendment. but in my opinion and in gabby's, some of these things are not really about the second amendment anymore. they're about public safety and protecting your children even in their classrooms. >> captain mark kelly, thank you very much. we wish you the best of luck in your efforts. >> thank you, mika. thank you, joe. >> thanks for being on the show. >> thank you, captain. and please give our best to your wife. what courageous testimony yesterday. >> it was. it was incredible to hear from her. it said it all. it really did, in very few words. this issue, though, we were talking about generals coming forward, colin powell, different people on our show, and politicians who are moving toward trying to get either bans on assault weapons or background checks for stricter regulation
maybe not from the nra's leadership, but from congress, from the nra membership. you know, we're not going to agree on everything. you know, gabby and i are both very strong supporters of the second amendment. i don't think you'll find somebody who is a stronger supporter of the second amendment. but in my opinion and in gabby's, some of these things are not really about the second amendment anymore. they're about public safety and protecting your children even in their classrooms. >>...
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the nra has opposed background checks for sales at gun shows. the nra and other elements of the gun lobby are the groups that have kept the federal government from having a comprehensive database on gun owners. they have even stopped the cdc from doing research on gun violence. that's how far they've moved, and i think there's another element of this we have to discuss, chris. i would be remiss if i didn't point out that it's no coincidence that some of this crazy, over the top paranoia started with the election of a black president. >> how so? connect. >> let's remember that in 2008 obama had campaigned for his first election being afraid to mention the words gun and law in the same paragraph. he never said a single thing about gun control, gun safety laws. yet when he was elected, gun stores sold out of guns. gun stores sold out of ammunition because the gun lobby had persuaded them that this guy is coming for your guns. they're already paranoid, extremist -- >> let's get to that overlay. >> they don't like progressive, democratic administrati
the nra has opposed background checks for sales at gun shows. the nra and other elements of the gun lobby are the groups that have kept the federal government from having a comprehensive database on gun owners. they have even stopped the cdc from doing research on gun violence. that's how far they've moved, and i think there's another element of this we have to discuss, chris. i would be remiss if i didn't point out that it's no coincidence that some of this crazy, over the top paranoia started...
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and mobilizing and galvanizing support to overcome the nra and other entrenched interests, which no doubt, no question will fight them, make no mistake, there will be a fight. but as you said, the centerpiece really is a comprehensive program that has to include the background checks. i propose background checks on ammunition purchases as well as extended background checks on firearms purchases so as to cover that 40% of private sales and gun show sales that are not now covered and a comprehensive program of preventing gun violence has support from the majority of americans. we need to make that support focused on washington, d.c. so our congressional representatives, whether in the senate or the house, cannot escape the brunt of that opinion. >> senator murphy, let me turn to you for a moment. you represented newtown as newtown's congressman. now as senator you represent the entire state of connecticut as their senator. connecticut is a small state, but it is a diverse state. it is both diverse in terms of urban and rural areas. it's diverse in terms of its population. and in terms of it
and mobilizing and galvanizing support to overcome the nra and other entrenched interests, which no doubt, no question will fight them, make no mistake, there will be a fight. but as you said, the centerpiece really is a comprehensive program that has to include the background checks. i propose background checks on ammunition purchases as well as extended background checks on firearms purchases so as to cover that 40% of private sales and gun show sales that are not now covered and a...
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a very proud member of the nra. with an "a" rating, said it's time for us and the nra to look at ourselves and make shchanome changes. a lot of people thought that might open up a larger discussion. that hasn't necessarily happened. we haven't seen a lot of people line up behind joe manchin to look at the nra and say hey, we need to moderate ourselves or we need to be at least open to some change. so do you think at this moment that this time is different, or has the moment passed in some ways? >> you know, i think we are living in a time when there is slightly a culture of instant amnesia where -- and maybe it's to do with the amount of media we have access to. it's like we gorge ourselves on a story, and then after a few days, it's gone. and that happens, unfortunately, at a policy level but also from a viewer level. and so the urgency seems so intense at the time. and it certainly did -- i was up in newtown for four days at the time, and it seemed like the whole country was focused on this. you had not just manch
a very proud member of the nra. with an "a" rating, said it's time for us and the nra to look at ourselves and make shchanome changes. a lot of people thought that might open up a larger discussion. that hasn't necessarily happened. we haven't seen a lot of people line up behind joe manchin to look at the nra and say hey, we need to moderate ourselves or we need to be at least open to some change. so do you think at this moment that this time is different, or has the moment passed in...
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is that what the nra is arguing for? it's just very frustrating, because this is a terrible phrase, there is no silver bullet when it comes to gun violence, but there are a bunch of reasonable, rational steps, and the first two i would point to are expanding background checks and dealing with the magazine questions so the 9-year-old girl might still be alive. >> and ruth and chris, the other argument that wayne lapierre made from the get go is that law-abiding citizens aren't the problem. adam lanza's mother is a law-abiding gun owner, and she continued to buy guns for her son for christmas and birthdays knowing that he had mental challenges. i mean, law-abiding citizens are part of the problem if they permit access of guns to go to people who should not have them. let's listen to just a moment of mark kelly. >> we believe wholly and completely in the second amendment and that it confers upon all americans the right to own a firearm for protection, collection, and recreation. we take that right very seriously, and we wou
is that what the nra is arguing for? it's just very frustrating, because this is a terrible phrase, there is no silver bullet when it comes to gun violence, but there are a bunch of reasonable, rational steps, and the first two i would point to are expanding background checks and dealing with the magazine questions so the 9-year-old girl might still be alive. >> and ruth and chris, the other argument that wayne lapierre made from the get go is that law-abiding citizens aren't the problem....
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i mean, the scary scenario that she let out, maybe the nra is right, maybe the movies are the problem. she didn't cite a single case that actually was like that. all of these armed intruders coming in so you need a 30-clib magazine to defend yourself. she didn't talk about a case like that. the real violence against women is usually one-on-one violence in which a woman is more likely to be killed by a gun even if it's hers than to use it to defend herself. >> the thing that struck me about the argument she was trying to make, nobody is saying that if you're a woman and you want to have a gun and go through legal procedures you can't have a gun. that's not -- she was trying to make an argument, sort of a fake argument. doesn't really exist. i guess she's suggesting thea r-15 is one that women specifically need because ths big around scary. >> nobody is talking about taking away, confiscating, or banning handguns. >> or saying you can't get a gun legally. >> what people are saying is does that woman in the scenario she's describing need to be able to empty 100-round clip into this suppo
i mean, the scary scenario that she let out, maybe the nra is right, maybe the movies are the problem. she didn't cite a single case that actually was like that. all of these armed intruders coming in so you need a 30-clib magazine to defend yourself. she didn't talk about a case like that. the real violence against women is usually one-on-one violence in which a woman is more likely to be killed by a gun even if it's hers than to use it to defend herself. >> the thing that struck me...
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nra, obviously. but universal background checks gets the door open, and maybe then you can get high-capacity magazines. >> 75% want that also. so i keep missing the political minefield of why a republican can't move on guns. i'm not seeing it. i look at the numbers. >> look at the 100,000 new members of the nra, literally, now, of all times? it's a pretty deep division, andrea mitchell. >> and i have seen no sign, even though they very smartly did keep wayne lapierre out of the white house meeting, i don't see any sign that the nra is ready to give on the background checks, even, which they ought to. but they have not conceded anything. they feel really empowered, as mika just pointed out, the rise in members, they say rise in money, but it isn't their grass-roots membership that really matters, it's the clout they have in washington. they feel really empowered by this, and guns are leaping off the shelves even as the vice president was sitting down with a series of people yesterday. remember what ha
nra, obviously. but universal background checks gets the door open, and maybe then you can get high-capacity magazines. >> 75% want that also. so i keep missing the political minefield of why a republican can't move on guns. i'm not seeing it. i look at the numbers. >> look at the 100,000 new members of the nra, literally, now, of all times? it's a pretty deep division, andrea mitchell. >> and i have seen no sign, even though they very smartly did keep wayne lapierre out of...
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basically we're dealing with the nra that is trying to scare the members of congress. that's been for years. many of them have said to me they would love to vote where me, but they don't want to lose their election with b it. we have to show them the american people will stand behind them, their constituents will stand behind them. >> good luck with the march today. democrats link first in the filibuster fight. the politico briefing next right here on "andrea mitchell reports." twins. i didn't see them coming. i have obligations. cute obligations, but obligations. i need to rethink the core of my portfolio. what i really need is sleep. introducing the ishares core, building blocks for the heart of your portfolio. find out why 9 out of 10 large professional investors choose ishares for their etfs. ishares by blackrock. call 1-800-ishares for a prospectus which includes investment objectives, risks, charges and expenses. read and consider it carefully before investing. risk includes possible loss of principal. who emailed it to emily, who sent it to cindy, who wondered w
basically we're dealing with the nra that is trying to scare the members of congress. that's been for years. many of them have said to me they would love to vote where me, but they don't want to lose their election with b it. we have to show them the american people will stand behind them, their constituents will stand behind them. >> good luck with the march today. democrats link first in the filibuster fight. the politico briefing next right here on "andrea mitchell reports."...
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by the way, the industry funds the nra. if the nra has a chokehold on the american political atmosphere, they have the money to do it. >> bill, help me understand a little bit more. i appreciate the end goal that you have in mind here of increased gun control and security, but are gun manufacturers really the place to go after? aren't they just sort of responding to the existing market incentives and the legal structure that exists? i mean, what ultimately are you hoping that they would do differently? >> i want them to stop selling, to begin with, military grade weapons and ammunition on the market. the vast majority of the cases these were legally purchased weapons. this is what we have to look in the face. the massacres horrify us, especially newtown losing 20 children. it is not like the guns gotten from criminal enterprises. they were readily available on the civilian market. we should not have that kind of weapon available to any civilian is the bottom line. i hope there will be an assault weapons ban passed in washin
by the way, the industry funds the nra. if the nra has a chokehold on the american political atmosphere, they have the money to do it. >> bill, help me understand a little bit more. i appreciate the end goal that you have in mind here of increased gun control and security, but are gun manufacturers really the place to go after? aren't they just sort of responding to the existing market incentives and the legal structure that exists? i mean, what ultimately are you hoping that they would...
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while participants described the meetings as open and frank, the nra had harsh words for the president afterwards. >> the administration was able to check the box and say they'd talked to the representatives of firearms owners and the groups that support the second amendment. now they were going to try to proceed with what they wanted to do. >> as those meetings were taking place, another school shooting. this one at a high school in rural california. one student was wounded and a 16-year-old suspect was taken into custody. >>> back in washington later today, biden meets with members of the video game industry. he'll present his recommendations to the president on tuesday. >>> this terrible flu season continues. people are now rushing to get their flu shots. dr. nancy snyderman reports the demand is leading to a vaccine shortage in some areas. >> reporter: the cdc says 128 million doses have been delivered. only 135 million have been made. this year's flu is especially virulent and can sprnt spread quickly. you can be exposed to the virus six feet away from a person. once you are infec
while participants described the meetings as open and frank, the nra had harsh words for the president afterwards. >> the administration was able to check the box and say they'd talked to the representatives of firearms owners and the groups that support the second amendment. now they were going to try to proceed with what they wanted to do. >> as those meetings were taking place, another school shooting. this one at a high school in rural california. one student was wounded and a...
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i'm an a-plus member of the nra, but we've got to talk about limiting some of these things. he said picket outside his office. he's faced tough town hall meetings. he's understanding what it means to be someone in a state like west virginia to come out and even consider the possibilities of limiting some gun rights. >> that's what leaders do. that's what leaders do. >> if joe manchin -- the jeremy peters piece is really good because you actually realize what it's like to be a lawmaker, not just yapping, but actually meeting the constituents and dealing with it. but also i think for this to succeed, you're going to have to get some republicans who are going to do a nixon goes to china. joe manchin is a red state democrat. he's a governor, a very sensible guy, but he is a democrat, no? >> we want you to join our conversation online. tweet your comments on any of our top talker stories. @morni @morningmika or @joenbc. >>> still ahead, john barrasso, jane harman, hall of fame quarterback john elway and writer and director of the film "silver linings playbook," david o. russell.
i'm an a-plus member of the nra, but we've got to talk about limiting some of these things. he said picket outside his office. he's faced tough town hall meetings. he's understanding what it means to be someone in a state like west virginia to come out and even consider the possibilities of limiting some gun rights. >> that's what leaders do. that's what leaders do. >> if joe manchin -- the jeremy peters piece is really good because you actually realize what it's like to be a...
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. >> what will joe biden say when he meets with the nra at tomorrow's meeting? >>> minutes from now, new york's governor andrew cuomo will announce a proposed ban on assault weapons. >>> and he's now a cover boy. new jersey's governor gracing "time" magazine. >> one thing i hope everyone in america now clearly understands, new jersey, both republicans and democrats, will never stand silent when our citizens are being short changed. >>> developing now in lower manhattan, piers are reopening after dozens are injured today when a ferry boat made a hard landing during the rush hour commute. >>> and back in the swing of things at the state department, but look how hillary clinton responds when asked if she's looking forward to retirement. >> i don't know if that's the word i would use, but certainly stepping off the very fast track for a little while. >> and what's missing from this picture? we'll discuss. good day, i'm andrea mitchell live in washington. from joe biden at the white house to chris christie in new jersey, andrew cuomo in albany, there's new energy for
. >> what will joe biden say when he meets with the nra at tomorrow's meeting? >>> minutes from now, new york's governor andrew cuomo will announce a proposed ban on assault weapons. >>> and he's now a cover boy. new jersey's governor gracing "time" magazine. >> one thing i hope everyone in america now clearly understands, new jersey, both republicans and democrats, will never stand silent when our citizens are being short changed. >>> developing...
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i carried the law, and the nra actually doesn't oppose it. i think we have -- this is the best chance of getting something done, and i think you're going to find much broader support than we've ever imagined. >> it's interesting, senator cruz. the president said to those americans who live in states like your own where there are very strong gun rights representatives, you're the ones who have to rise up and pressure those senators and congressmen to demand an assault weapons ban, a ban on magazines. and i wonder if the national rifle association has helped his cause with an ad that was released this week that talked about armed security guards, the president skeptical those could work, did not rule it out. but talking about the president's children and that issue of security. watch a portion of that ad. >> are the president's kids more important than yours? then why is he skeptical about putting armed security in our schools when his kids are protected by armed guards at their schools? >> over the line? >> look, i'm going to let people to dec
i carried the law, and the nra actually doesn't oppose it. i think we have -- this is the best chance of getting something done, and i think you're going to find much broader support than we've ever imagined. >> it's interesting, senator cruz. the president said to those americans who live in states like your own where there are very strong gun rights representatives, you're the ones who have to rise up and pressure those senators and congressmen to demand an assault weapons ban, a ban on...